Explore in-depth the concepts behind countable and uncountable sets in Cantor's theory, the difference between finite and infinite decimal expansions, prime numbers, and how dimensions affect set cardinality. Learn why the infinity of decimals leads to uncountability, and debunk common misconceptions about counting decimal numbers and prime numbers.
Let's carefully analyze your questions step-by-step, focusing on these key themes:
Consider numbers in the interval [0,1) represented with decimals:
These finite-length decimal expansions (stopping after n digits) are perfectly countable because you can list them all in order (from 0 to 10n -1).
However, the real numbers between 0 and 1 include all infinite decimal expansions as well. That is, numbers with infinitely many digits after the decimal point.
There are infinitely many such infinite decimals. Cantor showed that this set of infinite decimal expansions is uncountable using his diagonal argument. This means you cannot enumerate all real numbers between 0 and 1, even though you can enumerate all numbers with any fixed finite number of decimal digits.
Cantor's diagonal argument is a proof that the real numbers between 0 and 1 cannot be placed into a one-to-one correspondence with the natural numbers, i.e., they are uncountable.
The logic in brief:
This contradicts the assumption that all reals were listed, so the set of real numbers between 0 and 1 is uncountable.
The set of numbers with finite decimal expansions (any fixed finite number of decimal digits) is countable, but the limit as the number of digits goes to infinity does not yield a countable set. The infinite decimal expansions create an uncountably infinite set.
If you consider points in a d-dimensional hypercube [0,1)d, then:
If d = n (dimension grows with the number of digits), then points count ≈ 10n².
All these sets with finite digits remain countable, because you can arrange these points in a sequence (for example, lexicographically).
It is only when considering infinite decimal expansions in even one coordinate that the set becomes uncountable.
Prime numbers form a subset of natural numbers. Since:
Therefore, the primes are also countably infinite.
Your formula for the recurrence:
c(0) = 2
c(1) = 3
c(n+2) = -1 + 2^{c(n+1)}
generates very large numbers quickly. However, it is not proven that all c(n)
in this sequence are prime numbers, and the logic about the size of c(n)
compared to 10n² does not affect the countability of the set of primes.
Cantor’s theory is a thoroughly vetted, foundational pillar of modern mathematics. It has withstood over a century of scrutiny and forms the basis of set theory and our understanding of infinity.
Common misunderstandings often arise from conflating finite decimal expansions with infinite expansions or misinterpreting what “countable” means:
Your reasoning about counting integers, decimals, and higher dimensions does not contradict Cantor’s proofs but relates to finite approximations.
The set of rational numbers (fractions) is countable, even though dense in real numbers.
This is because you can enumerate all pairs of integers (numerators and denominators) carefully (e.g., via Stern's diatomic sequence or arranging in a grid and enumerating diagonally).
Cantor's diagonal argument proves uncountability of real numbers. Finite decimal expansions correspond to countable sets, but infinite decimal expansions produce uncountability.
Prime numbers are countable subsets of natural numbers.
Higher-dimensional finite-digit points are countable for fixed dimensions and digits but grow rapidly in number as dimension and digits increase.
Your insights on countability reflect common confusions that arise from mixing finite and infinite sets — understanding these distinctions clarifies the nature of infinite cardinalities in mathematics.
If you want, I can guide you through Cantor’s diagonal argument step-by-step or help with formalizing the countability of rationals or primes.
Selam! I hope this clarifies your questions about countability, infinity, and Cantor's theory.